PG Courses

[Dr Hari]

hii ...
wat r the criteria for doin pg in nepal.....how much worl experience do we need,....i hav heard NAMS needs 2 yrs work experience .....ani wat abt bpkihs...n IOM........plzz kindly let me know....

[hydatidcyst]

NAMS needs 2 years work experience, IOM and BPKIHS need 1 year experience in a recognised institute.

The PG courses are for 3 years, except for Ortho in IOM which is 4 years.

How is it that it takes 6 years in Pakistan ????

[Soul]

One of my fren from Bangladesh told me that it took 5 yrs to complete his Masters there just becoz he didn't pass the exams. As far as I know, if you are not including PhD in PG, it takes 3 to 4 yrs for Masters degree.

[Rajiv]

Originally Posted by medguy

How come 6 yrs for masters in Pakistan?

So is it in Germany. Full time of 6 years, and strong research publications during this period is necessary.

Originally Posted by Soul

it took 5 yrs to complete his Masters there just becoz he didn't pass the exams.

pretty logical

[Soul]

Originally Posted by Rajiv

So is it in Germany. Full time of 6 years, and strong research publications during this period is necessary.

Masters degree hoina hola ni ta. South Asia ko degree nai 'aade' chha. Katai MD bhanya PhD hunchha, katai Masters degree hunchha.

[Rajiv]

Originally Posted by Soul

Masters degree hoina hola ni ta. South Asia ko degree nai 'aade' chha.

Hi Soul,

Actually there is nothing like bachelor's and master's degree in German University education system. The regular university education here (ca 8-10 semester for naturalsciences) is equivalent to master's degree in UK and the USA. In medicine you take 10 semester courses + 4 months elective + 1 year Intership + 1-2 years research, then you are an MD, like in USA or MBBCh in UK.

Katai MD bhanya PhD hunchha, katai Masters degree hunchha.

He he, that is funny and hard to believe. MD medicinae doctor (latin for teacher of medicine) is actually not a master's degree. I have no idea of master's degree in medicine. People probably mean postgraduation.
Imazine "master's in neurolgy". Traditionally, Dr. title has always been superior to master's degree, and still. How can one get Dr first and then Masters ? Sounds weird.

Coming to point, in my earlier post I meant specialization, that take not less than 6 years. That is like Residency.

[Soul]

Hi Rajiv
Thanx for the info...now I am clear. Chinese education system is similar to that in Nepal, we have 5 yrs Bachelors course, 3 yrs for Masters and 3 yrs for PhD. However, you must publish one research paper for Masters and 3 for PhD (including one in international journal).

Originally Posted by Rajiv

Traditionally, Dr. title has always been superior to master's degree, and still. How can one get Dr first and then Masters ? Sounds weird.

[JNUS]

Originally Posted by Rajiv

......... I have no idea of master's degree in medicine. People probably mean postgraduation.
Imazine "master's in neurolgy". Traditionally, Dr. title has always been superior to master's degree, and still. How can one get Dr first and then Masters ? Sounds weird.

I don't think dr is superior to master's degree. Cause what we have (dr.) is our professional designation and dr superior to Master's is the academic designation (After one does phD on particular subject haina ta ) so u are mixing up 2 different things here.

As , SEAR has Bachelors system for Medicine, so they had Masters... otherwise it would have been like Europe or American countries.... So literally saying Masters = Postgraduation ( Same thing as Residency Enrollment and its completion )

Ki Kaso ta Mitra ?

[Rajiv]

Originally Posted by JNUS

So literally saying Masters = Postgraduation

Ya, that is true, but only literally and in most of fields other than in medicine. My problem is that, I guess, it is only nepal where people equate "residency" with "master's degree". There are defined rules and history for usage of degrees and titles.
In contrary to other fields, where you do master's degree, in medicine you specialize. So in my opinion it is better to say that you are specializing or doing residency rather than master's degree.
For researchers there are degrees like MSc in x(medical field). I admit that there are exceptions like MCh (surgery).

By the way, when we are talking about all these degree thingy, I remember reading signboard of doctors in Nepal.
They often read:
Dr xxxxxxxxx
MBBS, MD

What is the sense behind writing MBBS here ? It is something like when you ask a school boy, in which standard you are, and he replies that he is in 12th and he has also passed the 10th. well, logically, ain't? I remember, I guess it was Love nepal who told that it is all so that patients can differenciate them from then USSR graduates. In my opinion, MDs should only write MD and graduates from USA, Germany, Canada, or any other country where they receive MD for basic medical education should convert to MBBS if they register at NMC, as it is acknowledged by them as MBBS. Then it would be uniform and there would be no hesitation for MDs to drop MBBS, which is funny.

What's your opinion friends ??

[Soul]

I am a masters degree student and I write MD, one of my chinese frens is a doctoral degree student, he also writes MD, my supervisor has completed postdoc, and he writes MD,PhD. It seems you can write whatever you like .. when a MBBS from Nepal gets US medical licence, he can use MD there coz the licence says Medical Doctor (MD).
MD is specialization and MBBS is primary medical qualification. And its true a doc can't have an MD without primary med quali. However, Dr xyz MBBS, MD sounds good hehe. Actually I have also written the same in my all publications. I have seen some docs who love to write Dr xyz BSc,MBBS,MD. This makes sense. I am thinking to write ISc MBBS MD . I have heard that many German docs having two doctoral degrees actually refer to themselves Dr.Dr. xyz. Isn't it just like MBBS,MD? Prof.Dr. xyz is also the same. The fact is that docs in Nepal,India and Pak prefer to write 'Dr. xyz MBBS,MD'. and if you have such qualification then i think you can write whatever u like.