Two year compulsory Government Service for scholarship holders - NMC Notice

[mingma_thsering]

I think Bajia is right
Here is something that i would like to share.
It is from the previous discussion topic of xenomed.
This goes out to all the so called intelligent ones


This year match >100 Nepali returning homes empty hand -
03-14-2006, 11:25 PM
It is very sad to say this thing that >100 Nepalese doctor who went to USA for USMLE are returning homes empty hand.

There is no official documentation but it is estimated that >200 were for the matching this year. Some people say that those who get residency is only 30-40%

Its just an rough estimation. This information is to show that USMLE is not as eassy as you think. Its getting very tough day by day.

I congratulate for those who matched this year in March 13, 2006 and wish my best of luck for next year for those who couldn't make this year.

.............. Pal .........

[xenomedus]

Originally Posted by Rajiv

Finally a rule comes out to keep intelligent guys home....

dear rajiv
do you want to prove that you are one of the members of the bunch of unintelligent people .............
GL ........

[amy]

It might be a good idea to try to contain the scholarship holders for the benefit of the country. But the rule should not just be applied for those with scholarships from the Ministry of Education but also should include the graduates from IOM and BPKIHS. Afterall Government assistance (i.e. the general people's money in the form of tax) goes to them. Furthermore, the government should take strong initiatives to send the doctors into the government job. A basic setup and facilities must be defined at the work station.

[Walrus]

Bajia - there r plenty of junior dr whpo will b willing for services for the most needy people

I think those who genuinely want to do service for the needy ones don't need government to recruit them. U are also right, Bajia, where U questioned if only MOE students should be recruited. If U look around, we have another thread where we are discussing this issue; may be you would like to comment there too.

This rule to serve was there long ago but MOE failed to recruit them cause they were not prepared. Those who completed MBBS moved on with their life, there was no question of waiting till MOE starts thinking how to do it. But, the question is, should they be calling those back who have already moved on with their life and already engaged in something else?

That was one question I have in mind.

Another question I am raising is not properly understood here I think. I was brining USMLE just as an example here.

No one will disagree that USMLE is worth a try though more than 100 return in one year, but those who get scholarship from MOE are good enough to compete for residency in US. The data about 100-200 students cannot be interpreted so easily.

Among graduates, those from IOM/BPKIHS/MOE are the best ones. I should not be generalising and I should accept that those who are privately funded are also good and some are right at the top, but those who were able to secure a scholarship there must be considered good. So, chances are thsoe from MOE will have no much problem competing for residency in US.

What I wanted to question was the seriousness of the MOE/MOH on this issue.

They have said that MOE students who wont serve government may be denied the permanent license. What I am asking is, is that enough?

Dr. A and Dr B both got scholarship from MOE.

Dr. A gets temp license and does govt service and gets permanent license in 2 years. Good guy

Dr. B studies for a year in Bir Hospital Library and sits for USMLE. He is good. He gets residency in NYC. He does not need permanent license for that. Excellent guy

Now, the question I am asking is - is it fair that Dr. B escapes so easily? Tell me who is wise here?

Another question

Dr. C who graduated 2 years back. When he graduated MOE did not make any effort to recruit him. He is working in Kathmandu - some private hospital for 2 years and in a few months he will qualify to get permanent license. Will MOE/MOH/NMC deny him permanent license because he didn't show up? Well, 2 years back he was not called. Will it be fair for him to be punished now?

I hope MOE/MOH/NMC/NMA has answers to all these questions before they really start. Else they will be messing many young doctor's life. That will call for another revolution as that is the language everyone understands

[hello]

well it's good.. there r so many of us looking for job and fighting for govt job in lok sewa.. good opportunity for all. Is it compulsory for the recent batch?? what about the old graduates who studied thro' MOE and who are working in private sector???? If anyone knows about this rule in detail.. pls make it clear... thank you.

[Psoas Major]

it's damn good idea to bring such rule infront provided it should be implanted strictly.
In this text i'm concern about them who has finished his/her study on government money but when time comes up to serve the country then they just ignore it and escape to another country to serve there.
To go aboroad, to learn from there, to extract their technology itself is a good thing but to serve their country men is their prime Duty. after finishing 2 yrs service period another freshers will replace their position and then they can persue their higher academics no matter it will be from US,UK,Aus, or Heaven.....
And i'm sure that even if present schlorship dont obey this rule then it will be very difficult for upcoming schlorship holders coz of complexity of MOH rule for them.
"DESH KO RIN KHAYEPACHI TA JANTA KO TA SEBA GARNUPARAYO NI TA SATHI HO...

[Psoas Major]

it's damn good idea to bring such rule infront provided it should be implanted strictly.
In this text i'm concern about them who has finished his/her study on government money but when time comes up to serve the country then they just ignore it and escape to another country to serve there.
To go aboroad, to learn from there, to extract their technology itself is a good thing but to serve their country men is their prime Duty. after finishing 2 yrs service period another freshers will replace their position and then they can persue their higher academics no matter it will be from US,UK,Aus, or Heaven.....
And i'm sure that even if present schlorship HOLDERS dont obey this rule then it will be very difficult for upcoming schlorship holders coz of complexity of MOH rule for them.
"DESH KO RIN KHAYEPACHI TA JANTA KO TA SEBA GARNUPARAYO NI TA SATHI HO...."

[Psoas Major]

Originally Posted by Walrus

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They have said that MOE students who wont serve government may be denied the permanent license. What I am asking is, is that enough?

Dr. A and Dr B both got scholarship from MOE.

Dr. A gets temp license and does govt service and gets permanent license in 2 years. Good guy


Dr. B studies for a year in Bir Hospital Library and sits for USMLE. He is good. He gets residency in NYC. He does not need permanent license for that. Excellent guy
NO HE IS NOT EXCELLENT.... HE IS DAMN IDIOT DOCTOR.

Now, the question I am asking is - is it fair that Dr. B escapes so easily? Tell me who is wise here?

Another question

Dr. C who graduated 2 years back. When he graduated MOE did not make any effort to recruit him. He is working in Kathmandu - some private hospital for 2 years and in a few months he will qualify to get permanent license. Will MOE/MOH/NMC deny him permanent license because he didn't show up? Well, 2 years back he was not called. Will it be fair for him to be punished now?

I hope MOE/MOH/NMC/NMA has answers to all these questions before they really start. Else they will be messing many young doctor's life. That will call for another revolution as that is the language everyone understands

THAT'S WHY I SAID ABOUT IMPLEMENTING MORE COMPLEX RULES IF PRESENT SCHLORSHIP HOLDERS DONT OBEY THIS RULE.

ITS FOR SURE IF DR.A HAS STUDIED FROM GOVT.QUOTA AND DR.B HAS STUDIED ON SELF AND WHEN IT COMES TO APPEAR FOR USMLE OR OTHER BROAD EXAM EARLIER AND AT THE SAME TIME ONE HAS TO GO TO GOVERNMENT SERVICE THEN DR.A MUST HAS TO GO THERE. HE CANT ESCAPE FROM SERVING GOVERNMENT PEOPLE.
THIS RULE IS CLEARL TO EVRY ONE THOSE WHO KNOW SIMPLE ENGLISH. . IT'S SIMPLE IN NEPALI
" JASLEAI NEPAL SARKAR LE SCHLORSHIP DIYERA DR. BANAYEKO CHA TYO DOCTOR LE 2 YRS COMPULSORY GOV. JOB GARNUPARCHA"

[Khushboo]

Well its a good idea to implement the rule but Government should provide a good facilities and a good salary for the MOE students so that they can work in the remote area being tension free.

But if the MOE students compete USMLE then they should be allowed to go under one provision that they have to return back and serve the country for two years as if someone competes then he/she should be allowed to go as one can't miss this opportunity.

I agree that MOE students should go to remote area but only MOE students going to remote areas can't improve the health situation a lot as many doctors are required in the remote areas. Its the duty of all to serve the nation and so even those studying in self should also try their best to improve the health situation of remote areas.

[Psoas Major]

Originally Posted by Khushboo

Well its a good idea to implement the rule but Government should provide a good facilities and a good salary for the MOE students so that they can work in the remote area being tension free.

But if the MOE students compete USMLE then they should be allowed to go under one provision that they have to return back and serve the country for two years as if someone competes then he/she should be allowed to go as one can't miss this opportunity.

I agree that MOE students should go to remote area but only MOE students going to remote areas can't improve the health situation a lot as many doctors are required in the remote areas. Its the duty of all to serve the nation and so even those studying in self should also try their best to improve the health situation of remote areas.

Yeah i agree with u , its not only schlorship holders have to go to remote areas, as with them only doctors patient ratio cant be adjusted. so all the doctors will have to mobilise. But what we can see that most of the schlorship holders docs from MOH dont go outside valley.either they stick to ktm or try for abroad.
Those who have gone abroad to persue their carrier usually dreams to settle there. so i dont think that they will come back to Nepal
. or go to remote areas after returning as they wont find better place to practise for their level. so in my openion it is good time to mobilise docs to remote areas after MBBS