Government Service Mandatory if Internship done in Govt. Hospitals in Nepal - MOHP

[kniraz]

wow great news.....
intern ka saath saathai 1 year ko laagi job fixed!!!!

[Angel]

Originally Posted by kniraz

wow great news.....
intern ka saath saathai 1 year ko laagi job fixed!!!!

Its not the matter of getting job or not, its the matter of getting things done appropriately and sensibly.

Taking undue advantage is not wise.

[colossus]

Totally ridiculous.
What abt the private hospital, hospital run by charity like patan hospital and army and police? i have few queries as well.. hope someone will reply.

1. I have already graduated from China this year. Done ELECTIVE here in NEPAL last year, and waiting for turns in Eye hospital and BIR hospital for so called "internship" that would have already been counted if i have studied here in NEPAL, and what about the guys like my friends who have done their ELECTIVE in our own university there in CHINA. That should count for INTERNSHIP done in the parent instituition, am i right?

2. The decision regarding this is done on 064-9-2. Bless Xenomed, we came to know this today almost 2 weeks after the decision has been made. I went to NMC today for "NO OBJECTION LETTER" and nobody care to inform us about this. What is going on between MOE, NMC and HOSPITAL has been a total mystry for me for one and half year. I guess same feelings with all those graduted from CHINA. Aren't MOE and NMC responsible to let us know about the development?

3. Any Rules and Regulation is made at the start of whatever specific programs. It goes universal. Whatever rule is imposed at the middle of nowhere is DICTATORSHIP. I wouldn't have mind if i was told that when they issued the Provisional Certificate. What make MOE so UNDEMOCRATIC when the whole country is uprooting for DEMOCRACY?

4. Moreover we are PAYING for Internship (please someone convey this to the decision maker). How come we have to REPAY it with one more year bonding?

5. I do not understand the role of NMC here. What is it actually? Under what basis is it formed? Do they know what they are doing or is it for the sake of having a medical council only? If they could not communicate even with MOE and fresh graduate, why they are still functioning? If NMC is to filter the eligible graduate only then they should concentrate only on that taking exams and sorts of other activities to provide the licence to practice to eligible, should not interfere with where the medical student study or do elective. If they don'r trust the academic institution of those countries, dare to lable it so that further wannabe doctors don't go there. Branding students like, Chinese graduates, Nepalese graduate and so so is discrimination. Discrimination beyound race and culture, to a COUNTRY. A clear violation of the LAW OF NEPAL and its PANCHASHEEL way of diplomatic relationship with foreign country. (well we did study about this since very tender age, right?)

6. We sure wouldn't mind if NMA has some input on it, do we? We aren't the members of NMA yet doesn't make us strangers i guess. The Hippocratic Oath teach us to behave collegue as a brother/sister, teacher as a father and pupil as a Son/daughter. What is rotten inside NMA that make us STEP-son and STEP-daughter?

Now i conclude.... we the foreign especially CHINA and RUSSIA graduate are the one suffering and no one seems to care. MOE ain't going to end with Bizzare ideas, NMC ain't be doing anything good either, NMA doesn't seems to care. So its upto us, whether to abide whatever they decide or to challenge the unjustice that has been imposed and is being imposed upon us.

[Dgoodboy]

these rules of nmc and the ministry are really ...... i will be doing internship in my parent university which is china , then as per nmc rule i have to do one year unternship again, then again i am bonded to 1 year work for government hopsital......oh my god!!!!!

[twins]

hi
We are studying in china ,we will be finishing our 4.5 year study next month ,so we want to do internship in Gandaki hospital,Pokhara ,but we have not enought information about internship there.
As when can we start our practice??? do we need to give entrance exam??? are there all faculties in Gandaki hospital or we have to do in another hospital????? how much will be the cost to do internship there??
how many student can practice in one setting?
please reply this mail as soon as possible

[schwann]

ya nepali le bhaneko kura thikai ho ..... rule banaune manche le k sochera banauchan kunni .......... birodh huna parcha yo kura haru ko ..

[destinationyas]

Thank you angel. Thanks for giving us such latest news about internship.At least there has been some hope for those who are about to return nepal within few days for their internship.

[Angel]

Originally Posted by colossus

Totally ridiculous.
What abt the private hospital, hospital run by charity like patan hospital and army and police?

This rule has been formulated for Government Hospital only like Bir, Kanti, Maternity, Zonal Hospital etc.

Originally Posted by colossus

1. I have already graduated from China this year. Done ELECTIVE here in NEPAL last year, and waiting for turns in Eye hospital and BIR hospital for so called "internship" that would have already been counted if i have studied here in NEPAL, and what about the guys like my friends who have done their ELECTIVE in our own university there in CHINA. That should count for INTERNSHIP done in the parent instituition, am i right?

Elective? Do you mean by internship? If anyone of you friend has done internship in their unirversity then s/he will have to repeat their internship in Nepal as Internship done in China and Russia has not been recognized by Nepal Medical Council (NMC).

Originally Posted by colossus

2. The decision regarding this is done on 064-9-2. Bless xenoMED, we came to know this today almost 2 weeks after the decision has been made. I went to NMC today for "NO OBJECTION LETTER" and nobody care to inform us about this. What is going on between MOE, NMC and HOSPITAL has been a total mystry for me for one and half year. I guess same feelings with all those graduted from CHINA. Aren't MOE and NMC responsible to let us know about the development?

Since thise things has not been approved by NMC yet once it gets finalized they will publish a notice. It takes time to bring out a rules and regulation in any institute, lots of preliminaries home work needed in this case NMC will have a meeting on this agenda in coming Friday.

Originally Posted by colossus

3. Any Rules and Regulation is made at the start of whatever specific programs. It goes universal. Whatever rule is imposed at the middle of nowhere is DICTATORSHIP. I wouldn't have mind if i was told that when they issued the Provisional Certificate. What make MOE so UNDEMOCRATIC when the whole country is uprooting for DEMOCRACY?

You are right that’s what I am talking about. Either this rule has to be implemented from the fiscal year 2008 or some changes must be done.

Originally Posted by colossus

4. Moreover we are PAYING for Internship (please someone convey this to the decision maker). How come we have to REPAY it with one more year bonding?

I also don’t know on what basis they are trying to coming out with this rules necessary homework has not been done in this case.

Originally Posted by colossus

5. I do not understand the role of NMC here. What is it actually? Under what basis is it formed? Do they know what they are doing or is it for the sake of having a medical council only? If they could not communicate even with MOE and fresh graduate, why they are still functioning? If NMC is to filter the eligible graduate only then they should concentrate only on that taking exams and sorts of other activities to provide the licence to practice to eligible, should not interfere with where the medical student study or do elective. If they don'r trust the academic institution of those countries, dare to lable it so that further wannabe doctors don't go there. Branding students like, Chinese graduates, Nepalese graduate and so so is discrimination. Discrimination beyound race and culture, to a COUNTRY. A clear violation of the LAW OF NEPAL and its PANCHASHEEL way of diplomatic relationship with foreign country. (well we did study about this since very tender age, right?)

As I said above NMC is having a meeting on this agenda in coming Friday, I believe they will come out with more appropriate solution and I don’t think they will allow this. Anyway lets hope for the best.

Originally Posted by colossus

6. We sure wouldn't mind if NMA has some input on it, do we? We aren't the members of NMA yet doesn't make us strangers i guess. The Hippocratic Oath teach us to behave collegue as a brother/sister, teacher as a father and pupil as a Son/daughter. What is rotten inside NMA that make us STEP-son and STEP-daughter?

Definitely you guys have to approach Nepal Medical Association (NMA) as well.

Originally Posted by colossus

Now i conclude.... we the foreign especially CHINA and RUSSIA graduate are the one suffering and no one seems to care. MOE ain't going to end with Bizzare ideas, NMC ain't be doing anything good either, NMA doesn't seems to care. So its upto us, whether to abide whatever they decide or to challenge the unjustice that has been imposed and is being imposed upon us.

Its not you we are also with you, it’s a total mess they have to re-think about it.

Originally Posted by Dgoodboy

these rules of nmc and the ministry are really ...... i will be doing internship in my parent university which is china , then as per nmc rule i have to do one year unternship again, then again i am bonded to 1 year work for government hopsital......oh my god!!!!!

Yes you are right you don’t’ have a choice whether you do internship in your university or not you have to repeat in Nepal and choice remains to do your internship in Government hospital (although some of the private hospital like Kathmandu Model, Om are accepting but they are not enough for such huge no. of graduate).
And once you do your internship in Government hospital you will have to serve for oneyear.

Originally Posted by twins

hi
We are studying in china ,we will be finishing our 4.5 year study next month ,so we want to do internship in Gandaki hospital,Pokhara ,but we have not enough information about internship there.
As when can we start our practice??? do we need to give entrance exam??? are there all faculties in Gandaki hospital or we have to do in another hospital????? how much will be the cost to do internship there??
how many student can practice in one setting?
please reply this mail as soon as possible

Why do you want to do internship in Gandaki Hospital? Is it to bypass this rule? If you are thinking that way than you can’t escape because Gandaki Zonal Hospital is Government owned. After knowing all this fact if you are still interested I can get the info, please let me know.



Anyway Happy New Year 2008 to you all. May this year brings lots of hope, prosperity and success in our lives.

[xiaosu]

Right now we are still in China and not in a position to do anything except collectively condemn such discriminative and self-contradictory policies intended to be implemented by the MOE but what we can still do is to express a solidarity in our opposition to such biasness and keep in touch with the new developments. Thanks ANGEL, your work is appreciated. Keep on the good job.

[prakash1984]

Happy new year 08 to all u guys and especially thanks to ANGEL for the information..