You are Unregistered, please register to gain Full access.    

New cases in Pous 2064, HIV = 175, AIDS = 26, Death = 2. HIV rate is very high in Housewives than sex workers in Nepal ! ! ! HIV status in Nepal till 2005: Total Adult=70000, Adult Prevalence (15-49)=0.55%, Number of Women (15-49) LWHA=15,310 (22%), HIV Prevalence rate in IDUs=32.7%, HIV prevalence rate in sex worker=3.8%, HIV prevalence rate in client of SW=2.1%. The latest U.N. report shows that 65 million people have been infected with HIV since it was first identified 25 years ago. Twenty five million people have died of AIDS.

Welcome to the xenoMED, an online Medical Community where Academically sound, Professionally conscious and Socially responsible Medical Students, Doctors & Health Professionals interact with each other globally.

Medicine is the only profession that incessantly tries to destroy its own existence. Howsoever you may be associated with basic and/or clinical medicine - student or professor, physician or surgeon, undergraduate or postgraduate - this is your place to share your knowledge, and learn more. Just get the message across!

You are currently viewing our communiy as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, Join Our Medical Cummunity Today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
Go Back   xenoMED > Medical Students > Clinical Vignette
Clinical Vignette A clinical vignette is a concise presentation of an interesting or challenging patient encounter that stimulated an interesting learning issue.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
(#1 (permalink))
Old
Hero's Avatar
Hero is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts
MCQ-discussion - 13-08-2006, 08:57 PM

A 67 yr old man presented to ER with palpitations and vomiting -- for two days. On examination-- irregularly irregular pulse of 136 bpm, central abdominal distention, and absent bowel sounds.Two weeks earlier-- sign of ventricular failure and EKG done at that time showed MI, pulse was regular rate 95 bpm. At that time he was given digoxin 0.125 mg tid and hydrochlorothiazide.The most likely cause of his abdominal distension is:
a-Ascities

b-Hypokalemia
c-Digoxin toxicity
d-Hepatic congestion
e-Mesenteric embolism

This is a very important, interesting as well as a tough question I think. Answer is very confusing as 2 options are very likely to be the cause for his abdominal distension in this case. Please discuss.
Reply With Quote
(#2 (permalink))
Old
bharat's Avatar
bharat is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 84 Times in 84 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 13-08-2006, 10:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
A 67 yr old man presented to ER with palpitations and vomiting -- for two days. On examination-- irregularly irregular pulse of 136 bpm, central abdominal distention, and absent bowel sounds.Two weeks earlier-- sign of ventricular failure and EKG done at that time showed MI, pulse was regular rate 95 bpm. At that time he was given digoxin 0.125 mg tid and hydrochlorothiazide.The most likely cause of his abdominal distension is:
a-Ascities

b-Hypokalemia
c-Digoxin toxicity
d-Hepatic congestion
e-Mesenteric embolism

This is a very important, interesting as well as a tough question I think. Answer is very confusing as 2 options are very likely to be the cause for his abdominal distension in this case. Please discuss.
well hero let me try hai
well here patient seems to have digoxin toxicity because some feature like :-
1. Increased age of patients
2. symptoms of vomiting
3. treatment with hydrochlorothiazide(well it belongs to the main fator for causing hypokalemia and it is the main factor for for causing digoxin toxicity like you said two option are very likely to casue disease yes it's hard for me to choose between option B and C but B is the cause of C.
i will go for option c
please suggest me the cause ok
Reply With Quote
(#3 (permalink))
Old
Hero's Avatar
Hero is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 14-08-2006, 06:00 AM

Good thinking Bharat. This patient seems to have digoxin toxicity coz after taking digoxin he developed palpitation, vomiting, atrial fibrillation, and the most important is-he is taking hydrochlorothiazide which might have caused hypokalemia, and hypokalemia is responsible for digoxin toxicity. Really nice thinking. But the question is what is the most likely cause for his abdominal distension? Since digoxin toxicity doesn't cause abdominal distension, so we need to think again. This patient has atrial fibrillation. Could it be possible that atrial fibrillation--->embolism-->superior mesenteric artery-->mesenteric embolism? Is it possible? I am not sure, but not a bad guess anyway. Another possible cause is hypokalemia causing paralytic ileus. Use ur brain.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hero For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
(#4 (permalink))
Old
JNUS's Avatar
JNUS is Offline
xenoMED Advisor
 
Images: 21
Blog Entries: 4
Thanks: 4
Thanked 296 Times in 262 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 14-08-2006, 08:26 AM

Most probably, its, e-Mesenteric embolism as described by Hero in his recent post.


remember that silence is sometimes the best answer
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JNUS For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
(#5 (permalink))
Old
Hero's Avatar
Hero is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 15-08-2006, 07:46 AM

JNUS, my first choice was the same--mesenteric embolism due to atrial fibrillation. But,if it is mesenteric embolism symptoms would include sudden onset of severe epigastric and periumbilical abdominal pain with minimal appreciable findings on abdominal examination ("pain out of proportion to physical findings"). Besides then abdominal distention would indicate bowel infarction and the patient will have more acute presentaion which is not the case here. Also abdominal pain would be a presenting complaint and in this case there is no abdominal pain mentioned. The most important thing we should know that in atrial fibrillation a clot usually doesn't develop in the first 48 hours. Of course we do not know wether the AF was there for a longer time but the rhythm was normal 2 days ago. That's why I dont think his abdominal distension is due to mesenteric embolism.
What do you say?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hero For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
(#6 (permalink))
Old
Hero's Avatar
Hero is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 15-08-2006, 07:54 AM

His presentation fits more into hypokalemia causing 1) dig toxicity --vomiting and atrial fibrillation and 2) paralytic ileus which presents with mild diffuse, continuous abdominal discomfort, nausea and vomiting, sometimes generalized abdominal distention and decreased or absent bowel sounds. And this patient has all these S&S, so I go with hypokalemia.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hero For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
(#7 (permalink))
Old
Hero's Avatar
Hero is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 15-08-2006, 07:58 AM

Answer was not given. S&S of this patient are suggesting hypokalemia or mesenteric embolism. Tough question but the most likely cause for his abdominal distension is hypokalemia.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hero For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
(#8 (permalink))
Old
Hero's Avatar
Hero is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 136 Times in 124 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 15-08-2006, 08:00 AM

Your opinion and suggestions are welcomed. And this is my 100th post, now I become a senior member...thanks to all

Last edited by Hero; 15-08-2006 at 08:02 AM.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Hero For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
(#9 (permalink))
Old
JNUS's Avatar
JNUS is Offline
xenoMED Advisor
 
Images: 21
Blog Entries: 4
Thanks: 4
Thanked 296 Times in 262 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 15-08-2006, 09:53 AM

Going into paralytic ileus and then develop abd. distension may not be so quick i mean within 2 days after hypokalemia ... actually i had not encountered so and had not read 'bout how quick it develops after hydrochlorthiazide..

May be clinical evidence are not much given to make it confusing , still i go for mesentric embolism..

i will discuss it with consultant tomorrow and will post after that...


remember that silence is sometimes the best answer
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JNUS For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
(#10 (permalink))
Old
bharat's Avatar
bharat is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 0
Thanked 84 Times in 84 Posts
Re: MCQ-discussion - 15-08-2006, 09:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hero
Good thinking Bharat. This patient seems to have digoxin toxicity coz after taking digoxin he developed palpitation, vomiting, atrial fibrillation, and the most important is-he is taking hydrochlorothiazide which might have caused hypokalemia, and hypokalemia is responsible for digoxin toxicity. Really nice thinking. But the question is what is the most likely cause for his abdominal distension? Since digoxin toxicity doesn't cause abdominal distension, so we need to think again. This patient has atrial fibrillation. Could it be possible that atrial fibrillation--->embolism-->superior mesenteric artery-->mesenteric embolism? Is it possible? I am not sure, but not a bad guess anyway. Another possible cause is hypokalemia causing paralytic ileus. Use ur brain.
well hero i was not quite sure while i wrote this answer because in digoxin tixicity there is nausea vomitiong ,diarohea, and little cramp but not the distension and patient was started with verylittle dose of drug 0.125 mg tid but regarding other things he surely delvoped hypokalemia because the drug hydrochlorothiazide .
well sorry i was busy so could not read the massage on time.
well now i have read your option and from juns too.
well i am little unmature for the judgement so does mistake most of the time any way thanks for expaination
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bharat For This Useful Post:
RonSijm (19-08-2008)
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
discussion? Hero General Talks 1 23-06-2006 07:03 AM
Read Me Angel CHINA 0 14-04-2006 07:05 PM
About xenoMED xenoMED Announcement 0 26-02-2006 07:27 AM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com
Copyright © 2005-2007 xenoMED, Kathmandu, Nepal
Hosted and Maintained by: