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Exclamation urgent - 11-07-2006, 10:32 AM

my brothers friend is admitted to kmc.... she was admitted in the emergency department as she fell down from a 3 storey building. she was immediately operated. she has 2 fractures one on her leg and other on her hand. plus she has 2 broken ribs... as i have heard there in no brain damage.
she was under depression and was taking some pills for it.

she had gained consciousness for 1/2 hour next day of the operation but has again gone unconscious... the doctors have given a critcal period of 72 hours... she in kept on ventilation....

i wanted to know what is the cause.... why did she go unconscious after being conscious once?? and what does critical period mean??? and on what basis do doctor state the period??

p.s.please pray for her life


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Re: urgent - 11-07-2006, 10:47 AM

I am so sorry to hear about your friend.

Unconsciousness after the surgery is common because of Anaesthesia but in this case it difficult to interpreate there might have been some contussion or some brain involvement until a CT or MRI is done its difficult to say.

Since she is on antidepression medication they might also play for this situation I'm not sure, well regarding critical situation its like life and death situation as anything worst can happen next moment.

Well you can't predict the time frame for such condition but on the basis of biochemical analysis, patient operative and post operative condition and extent of injury help doctor to predict the safe period.

I wish for her speedy recovery. May God save her from this situation.
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Re: urgent - 11-07-2006, 11:16 AM

yh pal is right here is the quote from Canadian Journal of Anaesthesia it says
Antidepressants administered to depressed patients should be continued before anesthesia. Discontinuation of antidepressants did not increase the incidence of hypotension and arrhythmias during anesthesia, but increased symptoms of depression and delirium or confusion.
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Re: urgent - 11-07-2006, 09:16 PM

lately it has been detected that her yellow bone marrow has borrowed into her lungs.... she is also being given yellow blood {is this yellow blood plasma**...

how dangerous is this?

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Re: urgent - 12-07-2006, 01:01 AM

Dear shradha rana,

This is a case of polytrauma as multiple organ ans system might have involved due to fall from the height.

Few things has been already explained, so I wouldn't go through the again. According to your presenation it seem that your friend might have developed ARDS and might under heavy medication.
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Acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), also known as respiratory distress syndrome (RDS) or adult respiratory distress syndrome (in contrast with IRDS) is a serious reaction to various forms of injuries to the lung. This is the most important disorder resulting in increased permeability pulmonary edema.

ARDS is a severe lung disease caused by a variety of direct and indirect insults. It is characterized by inflammation of the lung parenchyma leading to impaired gas exchange with concomitant systemic release of inflammatory mediators causing inflammation, hypoxemia and frequently resulting in multiple organ failure. This condition is life threatening and often lethal. So it usually requires mechanical ventilation and admission to an intensive care unit. A less severe form is called acute lung injury (ALI).

ARDS formerly most commonly signified adult respiratory distress syndrome to differentiate it from infant respiratory distress syndrome in premature infants. However, as this type of pulmonary edema also occurs in children, ARDS has gradually shifted to mean acute rather than adult. The differences with the typical infant syndrome remain.
The yellow fluid your talking about is Fresh Frozen Plasma.

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Fresh Frozen Plasma (FFP)

One unit of FFP or thawed plasma is the plasma taken from a unit of whole blood. It is frozen within eight hours of collection. FFP contains all coagulation factors in normal concentrations. Thawed plasma may be transfused up to 5 days after thawing and contains slightly decreased levels of Factor V (66+-9%) and decreased Factor VIII levels (41+-8%). Plasma is free of red blood cells, leukocytes and platelets. One unit is approximately 250mL and must be ABO compatible. Rh factor need not be considered. Since there are no viable leukocytes, plasma does not carry a risk of CMV transmission or Graft Vs. Host Disease (GVHD).

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Plasma transfusion is indicated in patients with documented coagulation factor deficiencies and active bleeding, or who are about to undergo an invasive procedure.

Deficiencies may be congenital or acquired secondary to liver disease, warfarin anticoagulation, disseminated intravascular coagulation, or massive replacement with red blood cells and crystalloid/colloid solutions. FFP should not be used for Hemophilia B (Factor IX) deficiency unless Factor IX concentrate is not available. FFP, but not thawed plasma, can be used for Factor V deficiency. Recombinant or Factor VIII concentrates should be used to replace Factor VIII.
Its difficult to predict what will happen next but she might have chance of recovering from this condition I am sure there might be multidsciplinary approach (Orthopaedic, Internal Medicine and so on).

Since might be inside ICU therefore what can be done in this moment is wait and watch and pray for her.

May she regain her sound state of health soon.


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Re: urgent - 12-07-2006, 01:53 AM

i am so sorry to hear of this news...
shraddha, though i have no technical details to give and to assure you of the exact condition of your sister, what we can do is keep our fingers crossed and pray.... god will definitely hear the voice when its of the majority.....

her condition might be a metabolic response to severe injuries and the surgery...

and pls keep on updating about her condition....
i strongly believe she will improve fast...


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Re: urgent - 12-07-2006, 07:03 PM

God is GREAT but GREATER far is heavenly SYMPATHY

GOD BLESS THOSE WHO BLESS THEMSELVES


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Re: urgent - 12-07-2006, 07:06 PM

To talk about polytrauma is just nonsense.

USE LANGUAGE THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IN NEPAL 90% of OUR DOCTORS ARE HEALTH ASSISTANTS. OUR CONTRY DOES NOT HAVE EVEN 20 FULL TRAINED ORTHOPEDIC SURGEONS


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Re: urgent - 12-07-2006, 07:16 PM

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To talk about polytrauma is just nonsense.

USE LANGUAGE THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IN NEPAL 90% of OUR DOCTORS ARE HEALTH ASSISTANTS. OUR CONTRY DOES NOT HAVE EVEN 20 FULL TRAINED ORTHOPEDIC SURGEONS

what do you think of your self do you think you are the only one who know better than anyone go and check with the nmc or nma there are already more than 60 well trained and specialized orthopedic surgeon in nepal.

by the way what do you mean by polytrauma? i don't know how you can discuss in such arrogantly don't understimate the people around you
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