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25-05-2006, 05:01 AM
Isn't heart rate and pulse rate the same thing? I mean, in a normal person, the pulse rate is the heart rate, isn't it doctor?!  "Yeha maya sharir sanga khelna laincha,
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25-05-2006, 05:54 AM
i think it's different . the heart rate is the rate of the heart beat. and pulse rate is rate of the pulse. the origin of the pulse is same but the thing is different. So, the pulse taken in the heart and the pulse are different/ | | The Following User Says Thank You to sarosem For This Useful Post: | |  | New Member | | Posts: 7 Thanks: 0
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25-05-2006, 09:11 PM
When we take the pulse rate of a normal person, the pulse rate that is measured is equal to the heart rate, isn't it so??? Though the meanings of these terms are different, but the measured rate is equal, isn't it?! "Yeha maya sharir sanga khelna laincha,
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25-05-2006, 09:53 PM
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When we take the pulse rate of a normal person, the pulse rate that is measured is equal to the heart rate, isn't it so???
| Ya! The Pulse wave velocity is so fast (~2m/s depends on density of blood, vessel elasticity(age), length of vessel, Hagen-Poisseuille-Law) that the heart rate and pulse in A radialis is same. Only in pathl. case it is relevant, in which it may be long short deformed or completely missing. | | The Following User Says Thank You to Rajiv For This Useful Post: | | | Member | | Posts: 61 Thanks: 0
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25-05-2006, 10:57 PM
Dear Sushma,
You are right, pulse and the heart rate are same in the normal individual. You feel
the heart beat of a person by palpating artery in the various place in the body like
wrist, Neck - carotid pulse etc.
But in some condition heart rate and pulse do differ e.g. Arrythmia, skip beat etc. Disclaimer
The information provided should not be used for medical emergency, diagnosis or treatment of any illness.
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26-05-2006, 08:45 AM
Yes Sushma, i think our physiology Sir has taught this in our practical classes. The reply given by "Doctor" is absolutely correct.
Both mean the same thing.
So if we want to know someones heart rate, we can easily palpate the radial pulse. Another idea may be to auscultate the apex beat from which we can know the heart rate.
Knowing the heart rate than we can determine whether a person is in a state of "bradycardia" or "tachycardia"
Bradycardia occurs in
Non-compensatory shock
Hypothyroidism
Myxoedema etc etc
Tachycardia,
Refers to increase in the heart rate, which may be
Sinus tachycardia
Which occurs in physiological conditions of emotional stress (during exams!!) and fever (in which our body's thermostat is a bit high)
Ectopic tachycardia
This occurs when there is an ectopic focus present in the heart except for the Sinus node
It may be of the following types
Supraventricular tachycardia (SVT): in which the ectopic focus is present in the atria
Ventricular tachycardia (VT): in which the ectopic focus is present in the ventricles. There is much more, this is just what i can recall at this moment. If there are any mistakes, please correct me. And i will be very happy if you can tell me more about such things. Thank you "To deeds alone hast thou a right and never at all to its fruits, let not the fruits of deeds be thy motive, neither let there be in thee any attachment to non performance." | | The Following User Says Thank You to Arjun For This Useful Post: | |  | Member | | Posts: 90 Thanks: 0
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26-05-2006, 08:47 AM
Now here's my question,
Please tell me the conditions in which pulsus paradoxus occurs except for:
Bronchial Asthma
Cardiac tamponade
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26-05-2006, 10:13 AM
Other causes of Pulsus Paradoxus
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COPD A/E
Constrictive pericarditis
Pulse is a palpable wave felt in arteriol tree during systole (ventricular contraction) ??? remember that silence is sometimes the best answer | | The Following User Says Thank You to JNUS For This Useful Post: | |  | Senior Member | | Posts: 127 Thanks: 0
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26-05-2006, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Arjun Now here's my question,
Please tell me the conditions in which pulsus paradoxus occurs except for:
Bronchial Asthma
Cardiac tamponade
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I would be very grateful | Causes of pulsus paradoxus:
Cardiac causes
1. Cardiac tamponade
2. Pericardial effusion
3. Constrictive pericarditis
4. Restrictive cardiomyopathy
Extracardiac
1. Bronchial asthma
2. Tension pneumothorax
3. Diaphragmatic hernia
4. Superior vena cava obstruction
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26-05-2006, 10:33 AM
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