View Single Post
(#5 (permalink))
Old
Walrus is Offline
Senior Member
 
Thanks: 13
Thanked 89 Times in 87 Posts
Re: Argument Between Heath Minister & Medical Graduates from CHina - 02-02-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
QUALITY !!!!!QUALITY!!!!!
This whole thing is loud a bit.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
SUGGEST THE CONCERNED AND OTHER BACK BITERS TO THINK SERIOUSLY BEFORE GIVING SUCH COMMENTS AND AVOID SHOWING THAT THEY ARE SUPERIOR TO THEIR MEDICAL GRADUATES FROM CHINA.
That is the whole discussion here about. We are not back-biting but discussing openly why the minister made such foolish comment.

We are thinking and that's what we want to know. What does everyone else think.

Here, no one is showing they are superior but sincerely telling their opinion.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
I AGREED THAT THERE ARE SOME STUDENTS WHO LACK QUALITY IN MANY RESPECT AS THEIR COLLEAGUES HERE IN NEPAL BUT IT DOESN'T IMPLY TO ALL.

I can disagree on what U said.

U said some lack quality. Do they? All of them completed their graduation and all of them passed their licensing exam then all are equally qualified.

Even those who have passed from Nepal, India, Bangladesh, Russia, and other countries are all not good. What we are discussing here are not individuals but a whole group.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
BEFORE GIVING SUCH INDESCENCY, I WOULD LIKE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE PATRIOTS ,NATION SERVERS AND GENIUS HAVE THEY KNOWN CHINESE EDUCATION IN THE WORLD? HAVE THEY HEARD OR SEEN THE CHINESE UNIVERSITIES AND THEIR QUALITY EDUCATION IN THIS ERA OF GLOBALIZATION ?HAVE THEY COMPETED WITH CHINESE NATION COUNTERPART??
Yes, many of us have not seen Chinese universities except the photos. We are aware that Nepalese can never compete with them. I don't understand what has 'globalisation' got to do with but China is a super-power country with huge investment in medical field. Nepal will never reach that standard in near future or ever. We cannot afford to.

But, our quality of education is in no way less than theirs for the community we are trained to serve and even in global scenario. Our graduates are doing very well every where. But, we cannot compete with China.

We do not intend to disrespect Chinese education system in here.

Some of us have seen Chinese universities. I have always wondered about how they could. Just a graduate with few months of practice have gone as teacher to world-class universities in China to give classes. I do not understand how can they go and hope some body will throw light on that issue also here. The same doctors won't be accepted by any Nepali medical school as a teacher. But, we do not call ourself superior than the graduates from china.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
FAULT OF GOVERNMENTAND THOSE TOPMOST CONCERNED AUTHORITIES WHO THEMSELVES ARE UNQUALIFIED AND ARE BUSY IN THEIR PERSONAL MATTERS RATHER THAN COUNTRY'S AND GRASSROOT LEVEL NEPALESE CITIZENS AND THOSE WHO BELIEVED THAT THEY ARE SUPERIOR AND QUALIFIED THAN OTHER CHINESE COLLEAGUES ARE BOUNDED BY THEIR NARROWMINDEDNESS AND WORTHLESS MENTALITY.
For the conditions you have mentioned, if that really exists then that is really bad.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
ISN'T THERE ARE CHINESE GRADUATES WHO HAS EARNED NAME AND FAME ?
Yes, there are. So many of them. No doubt. I could have given U a list of them. But, I need help of everyone to come up with the list.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
FIRST OF ALL GOVERNMENT SHOULD KNOW WHY NEPALESE STUDENTS GO CHINA BY INVESTING SUCH HUGE MONEY?UNQUALIFIED!NONCOMPETENT?EASY ADMISSION?
THESE ARE ALL THE CONCERNED OF NEPAL GOVERNMENT? WHY THEY ARE SENDING SUCH?AND AFTER COMPLEING MEDICAL EDUCATION IN CHINA WHY THEY ARE GIVING LICENSE?WHY ARE NOT THEY IMPROVING SELECTING QUALIFIED AND SKILLFUL GRADUATES FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD?????
Government of Nepal is not sending them but the right way of saying it is 'government of Nepal is not stopping' any one who is seeking education in any part of the world.

Government of Nepal sends scholarship students who have competed well in open competition.

Again, government of Nepal is not just giving away licenses. There is a formal procedure for that. If someone who meets all the requirements and can pass the NMLE and applies for a license, then they are awarded the license to practice. Those who make it are all equals. That is what we are stressing here.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
REGARDING GOVERNMENT SEATS AVAILABLE IN NEPAL ARE SATISFACTORY WHY THEY ARE SENDING STUDENTS IN OTHER ABROAD COUNTRIES?ITS NOT ONLY NEPAL........EVEN MANY STUDENTS FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES IN THIS WORLD ARE GETTING MEDICAL EDUCATION IN CHINA.
Yes, the government seats available in Nepal are very good not just satisfactory. China and few other countries give Nepal scholarship seats and that is where Nepal Government sends the students not because the quality of education is better in those countries.

Yes, many other countries send their students to china. Sorry, Nepal government cannot stop them even if they want to.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
SO, I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST,GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT ONLYMAKE GOOD RULES AND REGULATIONS BUT SHOLD ALSO APPLIED THOSE RULES AND REGULATION TO ALL NEPALESE FROM HUT OF THE VILLAGES TO THOSE NEAR KINGSWAY.

Is there any rule that stops from studying in China that government has made and not applied?

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
WHY NEPALESE STUDENTS AND GARDIANS PREFER TO BE MEDICAL DOCTORS?.IS THERE ANY UNIVERSITIES IN FAR WESTERN REGION OF NEPAL?
Not all Nepalese students prefer to be doctors. Just those who go into science stream with biology major prefer to be doctors. We see only them with us so we generalise saying that all students want to be medical doctors. There are also those who want to be engineers, artists, mathematicians, physicists, cricketer, wall painter, and what not.

There are not yet any medical college in far-west but Nepalgunj Medical college serves the population well. I heard that there are few medical colleges that have or will be getting permission to start. You will have to wait for some time. No body is sure how long.

The division of regions is controversial. Like, there are medical colleges in other regions too but it does not serve the whole population of the area. There is a medical school in Mid-west but those from Jomsom, Dolpa are not adequately served as you might have expected.

Quote:
Originally Posted by joshijagadish View Post
sathi haru ho des yesto cha,quality ko kura sunda gajab laagchha .ahile dherai jaso nepalilai des ma saanti suraqa ra ''gas'' ,bas ,kapas ko badi jarurat cha,.ali aafno manasikata lai pani maathi uthau,des banau!!!!!hami nepali jata gaya pani kasai bhanda kamjor chhanau tara banayiyaka chhau! kamjor lai haath deu,maathi uthaau ra aafu swabhimani bani ghamand nagari aafu sang sanngai des pani banau taki hami nepali bhayaka ma hamra santanharu le garv garna sakun
des ma kati jana fraud harule kun kun chhetra mak k gari rakheka chhan???//tyo pani buzhau .kwak haru le des ma doctor bhaneRA k k garchan teta tira pani dhyan deau
ra asal ra kharb lai chutyau!! quality bhayakali rakhau na bhayakale fyakau na ki kunAi desko education system lai dosh deau.herau ,buzhau ,adhyan garau na ki aru lai aarop lagau.ekchoti aafu tyo thauma ubhira herau naki ghamand ra superior thanau.truth is truth but it is bitter. asal kaam garau aafu matrai hoina aru lai pani bato dekhau.kharab lai tiraskar garau !!!!! sahi kaam garera deslai aghadhi badhau, galat kaam nagarau ra garna pani nadiauIF i m wrong i m sorry
BUT REMEMBER, "EVERY PERSON IN THIS WORLD IS UNIQUE"
Ho sathi, timley bhaneyko yo sabai thikk ho. Sorry nabhanu. Yo sabai bhayo bhaney ta hamro desh ni kasto ramro hola. Sabai ko sapana ehi nai ho. Hamro chahana ehi nai ho. Esh mah dui matt nai chaina.

'Gas' ko kura ni ho. Katti din bho, line mah rakheyko, ailey samma dinna. Chaina, chaina matra bhancha. Gas bhayena bhaey k khaney, kasari khaney. Fukko chiura ra wai-wai misayera khaye matra ho.

Sabai juti desh banau.

This part is well said but this is little out of topic. May be you should start a new discussion with that. I am sure, everyone here will support you except some arajak, ugrawadi tatwa haru.
Reply With Quote